Project talk:Language policy

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[edit] Translate problem

Anybody can tell me what "public domain help pages" exactly means ? Cumeo89 15:33, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

See Project:PD help :-) --:Bdk: 19:02, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Unified categories

I've unified categories across language using NS:Pagename/categories subpage. For example,

Category:Manual
`-transclude-> Template:Categories
               `-transclude-> Category:Manual/categories

Now, I'm rethinking to change the name of the unified categories to Template:Categories/NS:Pagename rather than NS:Pagename/categories. Not sure which is more suitable. --Ans 14:07, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

To be honest, I really don't understand this template, or what problem it is supposed to be solving. To my mind it makes it a lot harder to figure out what's happening on the site and is completely unintuitive. What was your reasoning behind this change? Is it documented anywhwere? --HappyDog 22:41, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

For consistency of categories among many languages of specific title, the unified categories page like NS:Title/categories is used then.

Category:Manual/ja
`-transclude-> Template:Categories
               `-transclude-> Category:Manual/categories
Category:Manual/fr
`-transclude-> Template:Categories
               `-transclude-> Category:Manual/categories

But I'm not sure if these unified categories pages should rather be in Template namespace or not.

Category:Manual/ja
`-transclude-> Template:Categories
               `-transclude-> Template:Categories/Category:Manual

--Ans 13:13, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

I still don't understand what this is for. Why not just use normal category links? --HappyDog 14:36, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

1. Which one that you not understand?
   1. You don't understand the current template flow? or
   2. You understand current flow, but just not understand why need change the template name?
2. Could you please demonstrate the way that "normal category links" are used?

-- Ans 06:27, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Normal categories are insterted by using [[Category:Category name]]. This is transparent and clear and obvious to anyone who has used MediaWiki before. The first time I spotted {{Categories}} I nearly removed it thinking it was a typo, and it took at least 5 minutes of investigation to figure out that it was intended. This unexpected new syntax is a big barrier to editing for most users who won't have a clue what this random bit of markup means or how to use it. How is someone supposed to add categories to a page now? How are they supposed to find this out? Currently, I don't really see any advantage to this method, but I see quite a few disadvantages. Hence my question - what is the problem this is trying to solve? --HappyDog 11:19, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

1. The template is trying to solve the inconsistency of categories among language subpages.
   1. This is necessary to achieve the maintainability.
   2. However, people can still add categories in their traditional familiar syntax.
   3. Any expert can later help those people moving the added categories to the proper place, to improve maintainability.
2. However, my proposal here is not trying to solve the categories consistency problem.

--Ans 11:47, 19 September 2008 (UTC)